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With โTurn It Offโ summitting the charts and spending four weeks in the top spot, andย Auroraย selling over 2oo,ooo units every week, Daisy Jones & The Six was the act to see the summer of โ78. Theย Auroraย Tour was selling out stadiums and booking holdover shows in major cities across the country.
Rod:ย It was time to get the show on the road. I mean that literally.
Karen:ย There was a weird feeling on the buses. And by buses I mean the blue bus and the white bus. They both said โDaisy Jones & The Sixโ across them, but one had Billyโs denim shirt in the background and the other was Daisyโs tank top. We had two buses because we had so many people. But also because Billy and Daisy never wanted to have to even look at each other.
Rod:ย The blue bus was Billyโs bus, unofficially. Billy and Graham and Karen and myself, some of the crew, were normally on there.
Warren:ย I took the white bus with Daisy and Niccolo and Eddie and Pete. Jenny was with Pete sometimes. The white bus was a much better time. Also, yeah, Iโll be on the bus with the tits painted on the window, thanks.
Billy:ย I had a full sober tour under my belt. I felt all right going back on the road.
Camila:ย I sent Billy out on tour like I did almost everything with him back thenโฆwith hope. Thatโs all I could do, was just hope.
Opal Cunninghamย (tour accountant):ย Every day that I went into the office, I knew three things. One, the band would spend more money than they had the day before. Two, no one would listen to
my advice about how to curb spending. Three, anything of import
โbe it as big as baby grand pianos for the suites or as small as Sharpies for the autographsโyou had to make sure Billy and Daisy both had the exact same thing. That rider was twice as long as it needed to be because one of them would get mad if the other had something they didnโt.
Iโd call Rod and Iโd say, โThere is no way they need two Ping- Pong tables.โ
Rod:ย I always said, โJust clear it. Runner will pay.โ I should have just made a recording of myself saying that. But I understood. Opalโs job was to make sure we werenโt wasting money. And we were wasting a lot of money. But we had the biggest album in the country at that moment. We could ask for whatever we wanted and it was in Runnerโs best interest to give it to us.
Eddie:ย First day out on the road, we stop at some gas station. Pete and I get out and go inside to get a soda or something. โTurn It Offโ was playing on the radio. That wasnโt that uncommon. Something like that had happened to us a lot in the past few years. But Pete makes a joke. He says to the guy, โCan you change the station? I hate this song.โ The guy changes the station and โTurn It Offโ is on the next station, too. I said, โHey, man, how about you justย turn it off?โ He thought that was funny.
Graham:ย It was the first time I saw howโwhatโs the word Iโm looking for?โhowย invested,ย I guess, people got in the band. Billy and I went to get a burger at a rest stop when we were somewhere in the desert. Arizona or New Mexico or something and this couple comes up to us. They say to Billy, โAre you Billy Dunne?โ
Billy says, โYeah, I am.โ
And they say, โWe love your album.โ And Billyโs handling it great, being really gracious. He always was. He was great with fans. He made it seem like every person who complimented him was the first person to do it. So Billy starts having a more one-on- one conversation with the guy and the woman pulls me aside and says, โI just have to know. Billy and Daisy? Are they together?โ
And I pulled my head back and I said, โNo.โ
And she nodded like she understood what I was trying to say. Like she knew they were sleeping together but accepted that I couldnโt tell her that.
Warren:ย Real early on the tour, up in San Francisco, we check into this hotel the night before a show, and I walk right out of the white bus, Pete and Eddie coming out behind me. Graham and Karen come out of the blue bus. We walk right out onto the street and into the hotel, no problem.
Then Billy walks out of the blue bus and within, I donโt know, thirty seconds, you hear girls start screaming. And then Daisy walks out of the white bus and this sound that you think canโt get any louder, this shrieking sound that damn near burst my eardrums, it gets even louder somehow, even more shrill. I turn around and Rod and Niccolo are trying to push โem all back so Billy and Daisy can get into the hotel.
Eddie:ย I once saw Billy decline to give a group of fans his autograph by saying, โI just play music, man. Iโm no more important than anybody else.โ Watching that arrogant son of a bitch pretend to be humble was enough to make me want to scream. Pete kept telling me, โNone of this matters. Donโt get all confused thinking it matters.โ I didnโt get what he meant until it was all too late, I think.
Daisy:ย When people asked for my autograph, I used to write, โStay Solid, Daisy J.โ But when it was a young girlโwhich wasnโt often but it did happen from time to timeโI used to write, โDream big, little bird. Love, Daisy.โ
Rod:ย People were excited about this band. They wanted to hear the album live. And Billy and Daisy could really deliver the goods. Not only were they dynamite but they wereโฆhard to read. Enigmatic. They sang beautifully together, but they rarely got on the same mike. Sometimes they would look at each other and when they did, you couldnโt figure out what they were thinking.
This one time in Tennessee, Daisy was singing โRegret Meโ and Billy was doing backup and she turned toward him, at the end, at the very end, and sang right to him. She was looking right at him and singing at the top of her lungs. Her face went a little red. And he sang, looking right back at her. He didnโt break her gaze. Then the song was over and they went on. Even I couldnโt have told you what exactly had just happened.
Karen:ย In general, if you paid attention, you saw a lot of dirty looks between them. Especially during โRegret Me.โ Especially during that.
Rod:ย If you went to a Daisy Jones & The Six show thinking they hated each other, you could find some damning evidence for that. And if you went thinking something was up with them, that the hatred maybe masked something else, you could find evidence for that, too.
Billy:ย You canโt write songs with somebody, write songsย aboutย somebody, know that some of the songs youโre singing are ones they wrote about youโฆand not feel somethingโฆnot be drawn to them.
Were there times I looked across the stage at Daisy and found myself unable to look away? I meanโฆyeah. Certainly, if you look at press photos from that tour, concert photos and what have youโฆ youโll see a lot of pictures of Daisy and I looking into each otherโs eyes. I told myself we were putting it on but itโs hard to decipher, really. What was performance and what wasnโt? What were we doing to sell records and what did we really mean? Honestly, maybe I knew at one time but I donโt know anymore.
Daisy:ย Nicky was often jealous of what happened onstage.
โYoung Starsโ was about two people who were drawn to each other but forced to deny it. โTurn It Offโ was about trying to fall out of love with someone you canโt help but love. โThis Could Get Uglyโ was about knowing that you know someone even better than their partner does. These were dicey songs to be singing with
someone. These were songs that made you feel somethingโmade me feel what I felt when I wrote them. Nicky knew that. That was a very big part of our relationship. Making sure Nicky felt okay. That he was happy, making sure he was having a good time.
Warren:ย Night after night, it was packed shows, with a screaming crowd. With people singing along to every word. And then it always ended with Billy going back to his hotel room and the rest of us staying out partying until we found somebody to screw.
Except Daisy and Niccolo. They stayed out later than everybody. Everybody went to bed knowing Daisy and Niccolo thought the night was still young.
Daisy:ย The drugs arenโt so cute anymore when you wake up with dried blood under your nose so often that cleaning it off is part of your morning routine, like brushing your teeth. And you always have new bruises and you donโt know why. When thereโs a knot in the back of your hair because you have forgotten to brush it for weeks.
Eddie:ย Her hands were blue. We were backstage getting ready to go on in Tulsa and I looked at her and I said, โYour hands look kind of blue.โ
And she looked at them and said, โOh, yeah.โ That was it. Just
oh, yeah.
Karen:ย Daisy slowly became a person none of us felt much like dealing with. And for the most part, we really didnโt have to. She wasnโt particularly needy or anything. The only issues were when she let things get so out of control, it was everyoneโs problem. Like when she almost burned down the Chelsea.
Daisy:ย Nicky fell asleep having a smoke and the pillow caught fire at the Omni Parker House in Boston. I woke up because of the heat next to my face. Singed my hair. I had to put out the flames with the extinguisher I found in the closet. Nicky was completely unfazed by the whole thing.
Simone:ย I called her when I heard about the fire. I called her in Boston, I called her in Portland. I kept calling. She didnโt return my calls.
Billy:ย I told Rod to get her help.
Rod:ย I offered to take her and Nicky to rehab and she said I was being silly.
Graham:ย Sheโd slur a word here or there, she took a fall down the stage steps at some point. I think maybe in Oklahoma. But Daisy knew how to make everything look like fun and games.
Daisy:ย We were in Atlanta. And Nicky and I had partied all night and somebody had mescaline. Nicky thought it was a great idea to do mescaline. Everybody else had gone to bed and so it was just Nicky and me, high on a lot of stuff at once. The mescaline had just kicked in.
We broke the lock on the door leading up to the roof at the hotel we were staying at. The fans that had staked outside the lobby of the hotel had all gone home. Thatโs how late it was. He and I stood there, looking at the empty space where earlier in the day they had all been standing. It seemed romantic, the two of us up there. Everything quiet. Nicky took my hand and led me to the very edge of the roof.
I made a joke, I said, โWhat are you up to? You want us to jump?โ
And Nicky said, โCould be fun.โ
IโฆLet me put it this way: When you find yourself high on the roof of a hotel with a husband who doesnโt outright say that the two of youย shouldnโtย jump off, you start to realize you have a lot of problems. That wasnโt my rock bottom. But it was the first time I looked around and thought,ย Oh, wow, Iโm falling.
Opal Cunningham:ย A large part of the growing budget was accounting for what damages they would leave behind. It was always Daisyโs room that cost the most. We were paying hand over
fist for broken lamps, broken mirrors, burnt linens. A lot of busted locks. Hotels expect a certain amount of wear and tear, especially when a band is coming through. But this was enough that they were demanding more than just keeping the security deposit.
Warren:ย I think it was around the southern leg of the tour that you could tell Daisy wasโฆI donโt know. Losing it. She was forgetting some of the words to the songs.
Rod:ย Before the show in Memphis, everyoneโs getting ready to go out onstage and no one could find Daisy. I was searching all over for her. Asking everyone about her. I finally found her in one of the bathrooms in the lobby. Sheโd passed out in one of the stalls. Her butt was on the floor, one of her arms over her head. For a secondโa split secondโI thought she was dead. I shook her and she woke up.
I said, โYouโre supposed to go onstage.โ She said, โOkay.โ
I said, โYou need to get sober.โ
And she said, โOh, Rod.โ And she stood up, walked to the mirror, checked her makeup, and then walked backstage to meet the rest of the band like everything was right as rain. And I thought,ย I donโt want to be in charge of this woman anymore.
Eddie:ย New Orleans. Fall of โseventy-eight. Pete finds me at sound check and says, โJenny wants to get married.โ
I say, โAll right, so marry her.โ Pete says, โYeah, I think I will.โ
Daisy:ย If youโre fucked up all the time, you piece things together slower than you should. But I started to realize that Nicky never paid for anything, that he didnโt have any of his own money. And he kept buying us more blow. Iโd say, โIโm good. Iโve had enough.โ But he always wanted more. Wanted me to have more.
We were on the bus one morning, maybe December or so. We were laying down in the back, while everyone else was up front. I think we were stopped somewhere around Kansas because when I
looked out the window all I saw were plains. No hills, not much civilization, even. I woke up and Nicky was there with a toot, right there. I just had this fleeting thought,ย What if I didnโt?ย So I said, โNo, thanks.โ
And Nicky laughed and said, โNo, cโmon.โ And he put it right in my face and I snorted it.
And as I turned my head, to look down the aisle, I saw that Billy had stepped onto the bus for some reason, was talking to Warren or something. Butโฆhe saw the whole thing. And I caught his eye for a moment and I just got so sad.
Billy:ย I made it a point to stay off the white bus. Nothing good for me happened on the white bus.
Graham:ย We all went home for Christmas and New Yearโs.
Billy:ย I was so happy to go home to my girls.
Camila:ย There was so much more to my life, so much more to my marriage, than the fact that my husband was in a band. Iโm not saying that The Six wasnโt a major factor, of course it was. But we were a family. Billy was expected to leave his work at the door when he came home. And he did that.
When I think back to the late seventies, I do think a lot about the band and the songs andโฆeverything that we were going through with that. But I mostly think about Julia learning to swim. And Susanaโs first word sounding like โMimia,โ and how we couldnโt tell if she meant โMamaโ or โJuliaโ or โMaria.โ Or Maria always trying to pull Billyโs hair. And how he used to play a game with the girls called Who Gets the Last Pancake? As he was making pancakes, and the girls were eating them, heโd suddenly yell, โWho gets the last pancake?โ And whichever girl put her hand up first got to eat it. But somehow, no matter what happened, heโd make them split the pancake.
Thatโs the kind of thing I remember more than anything.
Billy:ย Camila and I had just closed on our new house in Malibu, in the hills. Bigger than any house I ever thought Iโd live in. With this long driveway and trees shading every part except the deck. The deck was totally unobstructed. You could see all the way out to the ocean. Camila used to call it โthe house โHoneycombโ built.โ
The two weeks that I was home for the holidays, we spent most of it moving in and getting settled. The first night we brought the girls, I said to Julia, โWhich room do you want?โ She was the oldest, so she got first pick. Her eyes went wide and she went off running down the hall, looking at each one. And then, she sat down on the floor in the middle of the hallway and sheย deliberated.ย And then she said, โI want the one in the middle.โ
I said, โAre you sure?โ
She said, โIโm sure.โ She was just like her mom. Once she knew what she wanted, she knew.
Rod:ย That Christmas was the first time in a long timeโa long, long timeโthat I didnโt have to do any work. That I could just enjoy myself. That I didnโt have to save some rock star from some crisis or make sure their rider was fulfilled or whatever I was doing.
I rented a cabin with this guy Chris. He and I moved in the same circles and Iโd been seeing him whenever I was in town. We spent the holidays together in Big Bear. We made dinners together and went in the hot tub and played cards. For Christmas, I gave him a sweater and he gave me a day planner. And I thought,ย I want to be normal.
Daisy:ย Nicky and I flew to Rome for Christmas.
Eddie:ย Over the holiday, Pete asked Jenny to marry him and she said yes. I was real happy for him, you know? I gave him a big hug. He said, โI have to figure out when Iโm going to tell everybody. I donโt know how they are gonna take it.โ
I said, โWhat are you talking about? Nobody cares if youโre married.โ
He said, โNo, Iโm leaving.โ
I said, โLeaving?โ
He said, โAt the end of the tour, Iโm quitting the band.โ
We were at our parentsโ house in the den. I said, โWhat are you talking about? Quitting the band?โ
He said, โI told you I didnโt want to do this forever.โ I said, โYou never said that.โ
He said, โIโve said that a thousand times to you. I told you this stuff doesnโt matter.โ
I said, โYouโre talking about giving all of this up for Jenny?
Really?โ
He said, โNot reallyย forย Jenny. For me. So I can get on with my life.โ
I said, โWhat does that mean?โ
He said, โI never wanted to be in a soft rock band. Cโmon. You know that. I got on the train, I rode it for a little while. But my stopโs coming up.โ
Daisy:ย Nicky and I got into a fight in the hotel room in Italy. He accused me of sleeping with Billy back in Kansas. I had no idea what he was even talking about. I didnโt even talk to Billy in Kansas. But he said heโd known for weeks and he was sick of watching me try to hide it. Things got intense, really quickly. I threw a few bottles at him. He smashed his hand through the window. I remember looking down and seeing gray tears falling down my face. They were stained with my mascara and eyeliner. I donโt remember exactly how it happened but one of my hoops got ripped out of my ear. Cut clear through. I was bleeding and crying and the room was trashed. And the next thing I know Nicky is holding me and weโre promising to never leave each otherโs side and never fight like that again and I remember thinking,ย If this is what love is like, maybe I donโt want it.
Rod:ย We had booked Daisyโs flight to get in a full day early for the show in Seattle. I had her come in early because I was nervous sheโd miss her flight and I needed to make sure we had a margin of error.
Daisy:ย The morning we were supposed to fly to Seattle, I woke up and Nicky was sitting over me. I realized I was soaking wet, sleeping in the base of the shower. I was groggy and confused but by that point I always woke up groggy and confused. I said, โWhat happened?โ
He said, โI thought maybe you overdosed. On the Seconals or something. I couldnโt remember what else we took.โ You know what happens when people overdose on Seconals? They die.
I said, โSo you put me in the shower?โ
He said, โI tried to wake you up. I didnโt know what else to do.
You wouldnโt wake up. I was so scared.โ
I looked at him and my heart just sank. Because, while I have no idea whether or not I overdosed or what exactly happened that night, I could tell he had been truly terrified.
And all he did was put me in the shower.
My husband believed I might die. And he didnโt so much as even call the concierge.
A switch flipped in me. It was like one of those breaker switchesโฆLike on a circuit box. You know how they take a lot of pressure to flip? But then once they catch, they switch over with force? I switched over. I knew, right then and there, that I needed to get away from this person. That I had to take care of myself. Because if I didnโtโฆ
He wasnโt gonna kill me but he would let me die.
I said, โOkay, thank you for watching me.โ I said, โYou must be tired. Why donโt you take a nap?โ And then, when he was asleep, I packed all my things. I took both plane tickets and I went to the airport. When I got there, I found a pay phone. I called the hotel. I said, โI need to leave a message for Niccolo Argento in room 907.โ
The lady said okay. Actually, she probably said, โBene.โ I said, โWrite, โLola La Cava wants a divorce.โ โ
Warren:ย When we all got back after hiatus, that show in Seattleโฆ Daisy seemed, I donโt know, lucid.
I said, โWhereโs Niccolo?โ
And Daisy said, โThat period of my life is over.โ That was it.
End of discussion. I thought that was badass.
Simone:ย She called me and said sheโd left Niccolo in Italy and I started clapping.
Karen:ย She started making sense when you were talking to her. She started showing up clearheaded to sound checks.
Daisy:ย I would not, unfortunately, use the wordย sober. But you know what? I showed up to places on time. I did start doing that.
Billy:ย I donโt think I had realized just how much of her was gone until it was back.
Daisy:ย I had gotten back to being aware of myself onstage, those first months away from Nicky. Of being aware of my relationship with the audience. I started making a point to be in bed by a certain time and awake by a certain time. I had rules about when to do what drugs. Only coke at night, only six dexies at a time, or whatever number Iโd come up with. Only champagne and brandy.
When I was onstage, I was singing with intention. Which I hadnโt done in a long time. I cared about the show. I cared about making it good. I cared aboutโฆ
I cared about who I was singing with.
Rod:ย Daisy high is fun and carefree and a good time. If sheโs having fun, youโre having fun. But if you want to rip peopleโs hearts out of their chests, bring Daisy back down to earth and have her sing her own songs. Thereโs nothing like it.
Daisy:ย I was drunk at the Grammys. But it barely mattered.
Billy:ย Before the award for Record of the Year was announced, sometime earlier in the night, Rod told me that Teddy didnโt want to speak. Itโs sort of a producerโs award, but Teddy preferred to be
the guy behind the guy, so Rod asked if I wanted to be the one to do it and I said, โIt doesnโt matter. We arenโt gonna win.โ
He said, โSo itโs okay if I give it to Daisy?โ
I said, โYouโre giving her a big fat bowl of nothing but sure.โ Look, you canโt be right all the time.
Karen:ย When we won Record of the Year for โTurn It Off,โ we were all standing up there, the seven of us and Teddy. Pete wore a goddamn bolo tie. Hideous. I was so embarrassed for him. I thought, for certain, that Billy would be the one to give the acceptance speech. But Daisy went up to the mike instead. I thought,ย I hope she says something coherent.ย And then she did.
Billy:ย She said, โThank you to everybody who listened to this song and understood this song and sang it along with us. We made it for you. For all of you out there hung up on somebody or something.โ
Camila:ย โFor everyone hung up on somebody or something.โ
Daisy:ย I didnโt mean anything by it except to give a voice to people feeling desperate. I was feeling desperate about a lot of things. I was feeling desperate and also, somehow, more myself.
Itโs funny. At first, I think you start getting high to dull your emotions, to escape from them. But after a while you realize that the drugs are what are making your life untenable, they are actually what are heightening every emotion you have. Itโs making your heartbreak harder, your good times higher. So coming down really does start to feel like rediscovering sanity.
And when you rediscover your sanity, itโs only a matter of time before you start to get an inkling of why you wanted to escape it in the first place.
Billy:ย When we walked off the stage, with that award, I caught her eye. And she smiled at me. And I thought,ย Sheโs turning it around.
Elaine Chang:ย Daisy accepting the Grammy for Record of the Year, where her hair is disheveled and sheโs wearing the bangles up to her elbows and sheโs got on this thin cream silk slip dress and she seems entirely in control of that band and confident in her talentโฆthat night alone might be why sheโs considered one of the sexiest rock singers of all time.
Shortly after that, they recorded the famous video of the band performing โImpossible Womanโ at Madison Square Gardenโ where sheโs singing deep from her gut and fearless about even the highest notes, where Billy Dunne canโt seem to keep his eyes off her.
All of this was during those months just after she had left Niccolo Argento. Thatโs when she was fully self-actualized, fully in command of herself. All the magazines were talking about her, everybody knew who she was. All of rock โnโ roll wanted to be her.
Spring of โseventy-nine is the Daisy Jones we all talk about when we talk about Daisy Jones. You would have thought she was on top of the world.
Karen:ย Thereโs something I havenโt mentioned.
Graham:ย Did Karen tell you about it? Itโs not my place to say anything if she hasnโt told you already. ButโฆI guess if she did, then itโs okay.
Karen:ย We were in Seattle, I think, when I realized what was going on.
Eddie:ย I never brought it up with Graham and Karen, that I knew they were sleeping together. But I did think it was odd they kept it so quiet. People would have been happy for them. Maybe it was just a one-time thing between them. Sometimes, my memory is so hazy I wonder if I imagined it. But I donโt think I did. I donโt think I would make up something like that.
Karen:ย I was taking a shower in the hotel and Graham had the adjoining room and he came in. And then he got in the shower with me. I pulled him into me, put my arms around him. Thatโs part of what I liked about Graham so much, was how big he was, how strong he was. He was hairy and bulky and I liked all of that. I liked how gentle he was, too. But this time, as he pressed his chest into mine, my boobs felt swollen. They felt sore. And I knew. I just knew.
Iโd heard women talk about being able to sense when they were pregnant. But I thought it was some Flower Power shit. But itโs true. At least for me. I was twenty-nine. I knew my body. And I knew I was pregnant. This dread just seeped into me. It was like it started at my head and filled my whole body. I remember being so thankful when Graham heard Warren knocking on his door because he rushed out of the shower.
I was so relieved to be alone. To not have to pretend to be human, in that moment. Because I feltโฆgone. I felt like my soul
had left my body and I was just a shell. I stayed in the shower for I donโt even know how long. I just stayed in there, under the showerhead, staring off into space until I could muster the energy to step out.
Graham:ย You know how sometimes you can tell that something is off with somebody? But you canโt put your finger on it? And you ask whatโs wrong and they seem to have no idea what youโre talking about? You feel crazy. You feel like youโre going crazy. This feeling in your gut that the person you love isnโt okay. But they look okay. They look okay.
Karen:ย I took a pregnancy test in Portland. Iโd kept it a secret from everybody. But thenโฆthat meant I was alone in my hotel room. Seeing the line turn pink or whatever color it was. I stared at it for a long time. And then I called Camila. I said, โIโm pregnant.โ I said, โI donโt know what to do.โ
Camila:ย I said, โDo you want a family?โ
And she said, โNo.โ When she said โnoโฆโ it sounded like this croak. In her throat.
Karen:ย It was silent on the phone. And then Camila said, โOh, honey, Iโm so sorry.โ
Graham:ย When we got to Vegas, I finally said, โCโmon, you have to talk to me.โ
Karen:ย I just blurted it out. Told him. I said, โIโm pregnant.โ
Graham:ย I didnโt know what to say.
Karen:ย He didnโt talk for a long time. Just paced around the room. I said, โI donโt want to do this. Go through with it.โ
Graham:ย I figured she was just wrestling with it a bit. I said to her, โLetโs just give this some time. We still have time, right?โ
Karen:ย I told him I wasnโt going to change my mind.
Graham:ย I said the wrong thing. I knew it was the wrong thing. I said, โWe can get a different keyboardist, if thatโs what youโre worried about.โ
Karen:ย I donโt really blame Graham, honestly. He was just thinking like most people. I said, โDo you understand how hard I worked to get here? Iโm not giving this up.โ
Graham:ย I didnโt want to say it but I thought it seemed selfish. Choosing anything over our baby.
Karen:ย He kept calling it โour baby.โย Our baby our baby our baby.
Graham:ย I told her that she should just take some time. Thatโs all I said.
Karen:ย It wasย our babyย but it wasย my responsibility.
Graham:ย People change their minds about this stuff all the time. You think you donโt want something and then you realize you do.
Karen:ย He said that I didnโt know what I was saying and that if I didnโt go forward with the pregnancy Iโd regret it for the rest of my life. He just didnโt understand.
I wasnโt scared of regrettingย notย having a child. But I was scared of regrettingย havingย a child.
I was scared of bringing an unwanted life into this world. I was scared of living my life, feeling like Iโd anchored myself to the wrong dock. I was scared of being pushed to do something I knew I did not want. Graham didnโt want to hear it.
Graham:ย Things got heated and I stormed out. We had to have the conversation when we felt calm. You canโt scream about something like that.
Karen:ย My mind wasnโt going to change. Iโve been judged for it every time Iโve said it but Iโll keep saying it: I never wanted to be a mother. I never wanted children.
Graham:ย I just kept thinking,ย Sheโll change her mind.ย I thought,ย We will get married and have a baby and figure it all out.ย She was going to realize how much she wanted to be a mother, how much family meant to her.
Daisy:ย After the Grammys, Billy and I started talking again. Well, sort of. We had just won for a song we wrote together, a song we sung together, and that resonated with me.
Billy:ย She leveled out. She loosened up. With Niccolo gone, it wasโฆeasier to have a conversation with her.
Daisy:ย We were on an overnight flight to New York to doย Saturday Night Live.ย Rich had given us the Runner jet. I think almost everybody had fallen asleep. Billy was on the other side of the plane from me. But our chairs were sort of facing each other. I had on a tiny dress and I was cold and I took a blanket and wrapped it around myself and I saw Billy see me. And he laughed.
Billy:ย Some people will never stop being themselves. And you think it drives you crazy but it is the very thing you will think about when they are gone. When you donโt have them in your life anymore.
Daisy:ย I looked at him and I laughed, too. And it was, for a moment, at least, like we could be friends again.
Rod:ย By the time they didย Saturday Night Live,ย โYoung Starsโ had become a hit, too. It was number 7 on the charts, I think. Somewhere in the Top Ten. We were selling so many albums they couldnโt print them fast enough. Runner had teed up โThis Could Get Uglyโ as the next hit.
Daisy:ย Forย SNL,ย the decision was that we would do โTurn It Offโ as the first song, and then we would do โThis Could Get Uglyโ for the second.
Karen:ย I bet Warren that Daisy wouldnโt be wearing a bra and I won two hundred bucks.
Warren:ย Weโre all deciding what we were gonna wear and I bet Karen fifty bucks that Billy wore a denim shirt and Daisy didnโt wear a bra. I won fifty bucks.
Karen:ย During dress, Daisy and Billy were actually speaking to each other. You could tell there had been a shift, somewhere.
Graham:ย We did the dress rehearsal for โTurn It Offโ and it went really well. So did โThis Could Get Ugly.โ
Billy:ย When the show started, I planned on doing it just like weโd rehearsed.
Daisy:ย Lisa Crowne announced us, you know, โLadies and gentlemen, Daisy Jones & The Six,โ and the crowd went crazy. Iโd been in huge stadiums with crowds cheering but it felt different. This small group of people just in front of us, making that much noise. It was this jolt of energy.
Nick Harris:ย By the time Daisy Jones & The Six performed โTurn It Offโ onย Saturday Night Live,ย they were performing a song almost everyone in the country knew. It was the Record of the Year.
Daisy was wearing faded black jeans and a satin pink tank top. Of course, sheโs got the bracelets on. Sheโs barefoot. Her hair is this brilliant red. She was dancing around the stage, singing her heart out, and tapping the tambourine. She looked like she was having a great time. And Billy Dunne is in his classic denim and denim. Heโs up close on the mike, watching her, having a great time himself. They looked like they belonged up there together.
The band is hitting every beat with a crispness and a freshness that you donโt expect when a song has been played as many times as you know theyโve played this song.
And Warren Rhodes is a showstopper for anybody interested in learning what it means to hold an entire band together with the drums. He was electric behind those things. If you could take your eye off Daisy and Billy long enough, it would go right to him slamming down on the floor toms.
And then as the song progresses, and the lyrics get a bit more pointed, Billy and Daisy both seem transfixed with one another. They move to the same mike and they sing facing one another. This emotive, hot-blooded song about wishing you could get over someoneโฆthey seem like they are singing to each other.
Billy:ย There was so much going on during that performance. I had to be aware of my timing and the words and where I was looking and where the camera was. And thenโฆI donโt knowโฆ Suddenly Daisy was there next to me and I forgot about everything but just looking at her and singing this song that we wrote together.
Daisy:ย The song ended, and I sort of snapped out of it, and Billy and I looked at the audience and then he took my hand and we bowed. That was the first time my body had so much as grazed his in a very long time. It was the sort of thing where, even after he let go, my hand still hummed.
Graham:ย Daisy and Billy had something no one else had. And when they played it up, when they actually engaged with each otherโฆItโs what made us. That was one of those moments where you think their talent is absolutely worth all the bullshit.
Warren:ย Between songs, Billy told me he had an idea for โA Hope Like You.โ I liked the idea. I told him as long as everybody else was okay with it, then I was, too.
Eddie:ย โThis Could Get Uglyโ went great at dress. And at the last minute, Billy wants to do โA Hope Like You.โ A slow ballad. And he wants to play the keys instead of Karen. So itโs just him and Daisy onstage.
Billy:ย I wanted to really surprise everyone. I wanted to do something unexpected. I thought it could beโฆsomething to really remember.
Daisy:ย I thought it sounded really, really cool.
Graham:ย It all happened so fast. One minute weโre all supposed to go out there to play โThis Could Get Uglyโ and the next, Billy and Daisy are going out there alone to play a different song.
Karen:ย Iโm the keyboard player. If someone is out there with Daisy, it seemed like it should have been me. But I understand what he was selling when he went out there. I got it. Doesnโt mean I liked it.
Rod:ย It was a brilliant move. The two of them out there alone. It made for great TV.
Warren:ย They were facing each other, Billy at the piano, Daisy standing opposite him with the mike. The rest of us watched from the sidelines.
Daisy:ย Billy started playing and I caught his eye, for just a moment, before I started singing. Andโฆ[pauses]ย It just seemed so obvious, so painfully embarrassingly obvious. Without Nicky there to distract me, without keeping myself so drugged up I wasnโt even mentally present, it just seemed so obvious that I loved him.
That I was in love with him.
And getting high and going to Thailand and marrying a prince wasnโt going to make me stop. And him being married to somebody elseโฆThat wasnโt going to stop it either. I think I finally resigned myself to it in that moment. Just how sad it all was.
And then I started singing.
Karen:ย You know when you can hear that there is a lump in somebodyโs throat? Thatโs what she sounded like. And itโฆit killed everybody in the room. Her looking at him like that. Singing to
him like that. Singing, โIt doesnโt matter how hard I try/canโt earn some things no matter why.โ I mean, cโmon.
Billy:ย I loved my wife. I was faithful to my wife from the very minute I straightened up. I tried desperately to never feel anything else for any other woman. Butโฆ[breathes deeply]ย Everything that made Daisy burn, made me burn. Everything I loved about the world, Daisy loved about the world. Everything I struggled with, Daisy struggled with. We were two halves. We were the same. In that way that youโre only the same with a few other people. In that way that you donโt even feel like you have to say your own thoughts because you know the other person is already thinking them. How could I be around Daisy Jones and not be mesmerized by her? Not fall in love with her?
I couldnโt.
I just couldnโt.
But Camila meant more. Thatโs just the very deepest truth. My family meant more to me. Camila meant more to me. Maybe, for a little while there, Camila wasnโt the person I was the most drawn to. Orโฆ
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Maybe Camila wasnโt the person I was the most in love with. At that time. I donโt know. You canโtโฆMaybe she wasnโt. But she was always the person I loved the most. She was always the person I would choose.
It is Camila, for me. Always.
Passion isโฆitโs fire. And fire is great, man. But weโre made of water. Water is how we keep living. Water is what we need to survive. My family was my water. I picked water. Iโll pick water every time. And I wanted Daisy to find her water. Because I couldnโt be it.
Graham:ย Watching Billy play the piano and look at Daisy, I thought,ย I hope Camila doesnโt see this.
Billy:ย You try playing a song like that with a woman like Daisy knowing your wife will see it. You try doing that. And then tell me youโre not about to lose your goddamn mind.
Rod:ย It was electric, that performance. The two of them, together, performingย toย each other. It felt like they were ripping their hearts out on national TV. Those moments donโt happen all the time. If you were up late that Saturday night watching them, you felt like youโd witnessed something big.
Karen:ย When the song was over, the small audience there erupted and Billy and Daisy took their final bow. And the rest of us came out and joined them. And, you know, I did kind of have this feeling, then, that we were big and we were only going to get bigger. It was the first time that I thought,ย Are we going to be the biggest band in the world?
Warren:ย We went to the after-party with the whole cast and everybody. Lisa Crowne was the host and I thought, you know,ย Just play it cool with her and maybe sheโll be into you.ย And so thatโs what I did. And then she was.
Graham:ย When I looked over, sometime in the early morning, and Warren had his arm around Lisa Crowne, I thought,ย Shit, we must be really fucking famous.ย I mean, weโd have to be for Warren to have a chance with Lisa Crowne.
Eddie:ย Pete and I partied with theย SNLย band to the point where I couldnโt feel my own nose and Pete puked into a tuba.
Warren:ย By the time I left with Lisa, I didnโt see Daisy anywhere.
Graham:ย At some point, we all lost track of Daisy.
Billy:ย I was polite, and I went to the bar with everybody. But I couldnโt stay long.ย SNLย parties are not where you want to be when youโre sober.
When I got back to my hotel, I got a call from [Camila] and we talked for a little while and there was a lot that we werenโt saying. She had watched the show and I think she was wrestling with how to feel about all of it. We talked around it a long time. And then she said she wanted to go to sleep and I said, โOkay,โ and then I said, โI love you. You are my โAurora.โ โ And she said she loved me too and hung up the phone.
Camila:ย No matter who you choose to go down the road with, youโre gonna get hurt. Thatโs just the nature of caring about someone. No matter who you love, they will break your heart along the way. Billy Dunne has broken my heart a number of times. And I know Iโve broken his. But yes, that night watching them onย SNLโฆthat was one of the times that my heart cracked.
But I just kept choosing trust and hope. I believed he was worthy of it.
Daisy:ย I was sitting in a booth next to Rod at theย SNLย party and a bunch of girls went into the bathroom to do a line and I was so bored. I was so incredibly bored of my life. Of the speed and coke and the cycle. It was like watching a movie for the hundredth time. You already know when the bad guyโs gonna show up, you already know what the hero will do. It was so boring, the thought of it, that I wanted to die. I wanted real life, for once. Anything real. So I got up and I got in a cab and I went back to the hotel and I went to Billyโs room.
Billy:ย There was a knock at my door. Just as I was falling asleep. And at first I just let the person knock. I figured it was Graham and it could wait until the morning.
Daisy:ย I just kept knocking. I knew he was in there.
Billy:ย Finally, I get out of bed and Iโm in just my skivvies. And I answer and I say, โWhat do you want?โ And then I look and itโs Daisy.
Daisy:ย I just needed to say what I needed to say. I had to say it. It was then or it was never and it couldnโt be never. I couldnโt live like that.
Billy:ย I was genuinely in shock. I could not believe it.
Daisy:ย I said, โI want to get clean.โ
Billy immediately pulled me into his room. And he sat me down and he said, โAre you sure?โ
I said, โYes.โ
And he said, โLetโs get you into rehab now.โ
He picked up the phone and he started dialing and I got up and I hung up the phone and I said, โJustโฆright now just sit with me. And help meโฆunderstand what Iโm doing.โ
Billy:ย I didnโt know how to help somebody else. But I wanted to. I wanted to help somebody the way Teddy had helped me. I owed so much to him, felt so grateful to him. For getting me into rehab when he did. And I wanted to do that for someone. I wanted to do it for her. I wanted her to be safe and healthy. I wanted that for herโฆIโฆyeah, I wanted that for her very badly.
Daisy:ย Billy and I talked about rehab and what that would mean and he told me a little bit about what it would be like. It seemed so daunting. I was starting to wonder if I didnโt really mean it. If I wasnโt actually ready to go through with it. But I kept trying to believe in myself, that I could. At one point, Billy asked if I was sober.ย Was I sober right then?
Iโd had a drink or two at the party, Iโd had dexies earlier in the day. I couldnโt have told you what sober meant, exactly. Had everything worn off? Did I even remember what it was like to be entirely straight?
Billy opened the minibar to get a soda and there were all these nips in there of tequila and vodka and I looked at them. And Billy looked at them. And then he just took them and walked to the window and threw them out the window. You could hear a few of
them break on the roof of the floor below. I said, โWhat are you doing?โ
Billy just said, โThatโs rock โnโ roll.โ
Billy:ย At some point, we got to talking about the album.
Daisy:ย I asked him something that had been plaguing me for the past couple months. โAre you worried weโll never be able to write another album as good as this?โ
Billy:ย I said, โI worry about it every fucking day.โ
Daisy:ย All my life Iโd wanted people to recognize my talent as a songwriter andย Auroraย had brought it, the recognition. And Iโd immediately started to feel like an impostor.
Billy:ย The higher that album went, the more nervous I felt thinking about how to make another one. Iโd be scribbling down songs in my notebook on the bus and Iโd just end up crossing it all out and throwing it away because it wasnโtโฆI couldnโt tell if it was any good anymore. I didnโt know if I was just exposing myself as a fraud.
Daisy:ย He was the only one that could understand that level of pressure.
Billy:ย When morning came, I brought up rehab again.
Daisy:ย The thought I kept hearing in my head wasย Go for a little while just for a break. You donโt have to stop forever.ย That was my plan. To go to rehab without planning to quit forever. It made perfect sense to me. Iโll tell you: If a friend lied to me the way I lie to myself, Iโd say, โYouโre a shitty friend.โ
Billy:ย I picked up the phone to call information to get the number for the rehab center I went to. But when I picked up the receiver,
there was no dial tone. And someone on the other end was saying, โHello?โ
I said, โHello?โ
It was the concierge. He said, โI have an Artie Snyder on the phone for you.โ
I told him to put it through but I was thinking,ย Why is my sound engineer calling me at the ass crack of dawn?ย I said, โArtie, what on earthโฆ?โ
Daisy:ย Teddy had a heart attack.
Warren:ย A lot of people live through heart attacks. So when I found out, I thoughtโฆI didnโt immediately realize that meant he was dead.
Billy:ย Gone.
Graham:ย Teddy Price isnโt the kind of guy you think is going to die of a heart attack. Well, I mean, he ate like shit and drank a lot and didnโt take great care of himself butโฆHe just seemed tooโฆ powerful, maybe. Like if a heart attack came to town he was going to tell it to screw off and it would.
Billy:ย It just knocked the wind right out of me. And my first thought when I got off the phone, the very first thought in my head wasย Why did I throw the booze out the window?
Rod:ย I got them all home to L.A. for the funeral.
Warren:ย Weโd all been devastated to lose Teddy. But, man, watching Yasmine, his girlfriend, break down in these awful tears at his graveโฆI just kept thinking that so little in life mattered. But how Yasmine felt about Teddyโฆthat mattered.
Graham:ย Teddy was a lot of things to a lot of people. Iโll never forget being at the memorial and seeing Billy holding Yasmineโs hand, trying to make her feel all right. Because I knew he wasnโt all right.
Every man needs a man to look up to. For better or worse, I had Billy. Billy had Teddy. And Teddy was gone.
Billy:ย Things had sort of spun out of control for me. I could barely make sense of anything. I couldnโt process it. Teddy being gone. Teddy beingโฆdead. I think I died inside, for a little while. I know that sounds kind of extreme. But thatโs what it felt like. It felt like my heart sort of turned to stone. Orโฆyou know how people get cryogenically frozen? Like, they just put themselves on ice in the hopes that they can come back one day? Thatโs what happened to my soul. On ice.
I couldnโt handle reality. Not sober. Not without a drink or aโฆ I just checked out. I checked out of my life. I had no other way of coping but to die inside. Because if I tried to stay alive, toย liveย during that period of time, it might actually have killed me.
Daisy:ย When Teddy died,ย that was it. Iโd decided there was no sense in getting sober. I rationalized it. You know,ย If the universe wanted me to get clean, it wouldnโt have killed Teddy.ย You can justify anything. If youโre narcissistic enough to believe that the universe conspires for and against youโwhich we all are, deep
downโthen you can convince yourself youโre getting signs about anything and everything.
Warren:ย Iโd spent about three weeks on my boat. Smoking cigars, getting drunk, barely changing my clothes. Lisa and I had been talking a bit, since the show onย SNL. She came out to see me. She said, โYou live on a boat?โ
I said, โYeah.โ
She said, โYouโre an adult. Get a real house.โ She had a point.
Eddie:ย Iโd thought the best thing for all of us was to get back out on the road. We lost a cousin of mine in a car accident about ten or eleven years before, and my dad had said, โWork through pain.โ Thatโs been my way ever since. I thought it might make Pete stay in the band. But, if anything, it made him more ready to leave.
Billy:ย One time, Camila asked me to scrub the toilet and I went in there and I started scrubbing the bowl and I just kept scrubbing it. And then she came in and she said, โWhat are you doing?โ
I said, โIโm cleaning the toilet.โ
She said, โYouโve been cleaning the toilet for forty-five minutes.โ
I said, โOh.โ
Camila:ย I said to him, โYou need to get back on the road, Billy. Weโll all go with you. But you need to get back out there. Sitting at home thinking is killing you.โ
Rod:ย At some point, you have to get back on the bus.
Graham:ย You think that tragedy means that the world is over but you realize the world is never over. Itโs just never over. Nothing will end it.
And I kept focusing on the fact that, with Karen and I, you know,ย life is just beginning.
Karen:ย I was very thankful to Rod that he got us back out on the road. That he didnโt let us capsize.
Billy:ย I did what Camila said. I got back out there. The first show, we were in Indianapolis. I flew out with the band. Camila and the girls were going to join me at the next stop.
Indianapolis wasโฆit was tough. I showed up at the hotel, checked in, saw Graham, saw Karen, and then at sound check there was Daisy. She was wearing overalls. She looked strung out. You could see it. Her sunken eyes and her skinny arms. I had a hard time looking at her.
Iโd failed her. She had asked me to help her get sober. And once Teddy died, I abandoned her.
Daisy:ย That first night back, I think we were in Ohio, I was so embarrassed to even let Billy see me. Because I had come to him and said that I wanted to get sober. And then I hadnโt done it. Iโd fallen even further than before.
Karen:ย I told Graham Iโd decided to have an abortion. And he said I was crazy. And I told him I wasnโt. And he asked me not to do it.
I said, โAre you going to quit this band to raise this baby?โ And he didnโt respond. And that was it.
Graham:ย I thought we were still discussing it.
Karen:ย He knew. He knew what I was going to do. He just feels more comfortable pretending he didnโt. He has that luxury.
Billy:ย Camila and the girls came to join us in Dayton. I picked them up from the airport and as I was waiting for them, I could see a guy ordering a tequila on the rocks at the bar. I could hear the ice in the glass. I could see it sitting in the tequila. It was announced that their plane was stuck on the runway and I was sitting there, staring at the gate.
As I was telling myself that I wasnโt going to order a drink, I walked over to the bar and I sat down on a stool. The guy behind the counter said, โWhat can I get you?โ And I stared at him. And he said it again. And then I hear, โDaddy!โ and I looked and there was my family.
Camila said, โWhatโs going on?โ
I stood up and I smiled at her and, in that moment, I had it under control. I said, โNothing. Iโm good.โ
She gave me a glance and I said, โI promise.โ And I picked up my girls in a big bear hug and I felt okay. I felt all right.
Camila:ย To be honest, thatโs when I questioned my own faith. Finding him sitting at a bar. Flags went up.
I started to wonder if maybe Billy was capable of doing something that I would be incapable of forgiving.
Karen:ย Camila was with us from then on. For as long as that tour lasted. Sheโd fly back and forth, sometimes she had all the girls with her. But she almost always had Julia there. Julia was about five, by that point, I want to say.
Daisy:ย Every night was starting to feel like torture. It had been one thing to sing with Billy when I was with someone else, when I didnโt know how I felt, when I had lies I could hide behind. Denial is like an old blanket. I loved to get on under that thing and curl up and sleep. But, leaving Nicky, singing that song with Billy on live TV, telling him I wanted to get cleanโฆIโd ripped the blanket off of myself. And there was no putting it back on. And it was killing me. The vulnerability, the rawness. It was killing me to get up there on that stage. To sing with him.
When we did โYoung Stars,โ I was praying Billy would look at me and acknowledge what we were saying to each other. And when we did โPlease,โ I was begging him to pay attention to me. I was having a hard time singing โRegret Meโ with any real anger because I wasnโt angry, most of the time. Not anymore. I was sad. I was so goddamn sad.
And everybody wanted to see โA Hope Like Youโ the way we had done it onย SNLย and the two of us kept trying to deliver that. It just kept slicing me in two every night.
To sit next to him and smell his aftershave. And see his big hands with his swollen knuckles playing the piano in front of me and to be singing, from the very bottom of my heart, that I ached for him to love me back.
I spent the hours of the day we werenโt onstage trying to repair my wounds and it was like I was pulling them back open every night.
Simone:ย I was getting a lot of phone calls from Daisy at all hours of the day. Iโd say, โLet me come get you.โ And sheโd refuse. I thought about trying to force her into rehab. But you canโt do that. You canโt control another person. It doesnโt matter how much you love them. You canโt love someone back to health and you canโt hate someone back to health and no matter howย rightย you are about something, it doesnโt mean they will change their mind.
I used to rehearse speeches and interventions and consider flying to where she was and dragging her off that stageโas if, if I could just get the words right, I could convince her to get sober. You drive yourself crazy, trying to put words in some magical order that will unlock their sanity. And when it doesnโt work, you think,ย I didnโt try hard enough. I didnโt talk to her clearly enough.
But at some point, you have to recognize that you have no control over anybody and you have to step back and be ready to catch them when they fall and thatโs all you can do. It feels like throwing yourself to sea. Or, maybe not that. Maybe itโs more like throwing someone you love out to sea and then praying they float on their own, knowing they might well drown and youโll have to watch.
Daisy:ย Iโd chased this life with all of my heart. I wanted so badly to express myself and be heard and bring solace to other people with my own words. But it became a hell Iโd created myself, a cage Iโd built and locked myself in. I came to hate that Iโd put my heart and my pain into my music because it meant that I couldnโt ever
leave it behind. And I had to keep singing it to him, night after night after night, and I could no longer hide how I felt or what being next to him was doing to me.
It made for a great show. But it was myย life.
Billy:ย Every night, after the show was over and the girls were in bed, Camila and I would sit out on the balcony of whatever hotel we were in and weโd just talk. Sheโd talk about how the girls were stressing her out. Sheโd talk about how she really needed me to stay sober. Iโd tell her how hard I was trying. Iโd tell her how scared I was of just about everything the future held. Runner had started asking about a new album. The weight was on me.
At one point she said, โDo you honestly think you canโt write another good album without Teddy?โ
And I said, โIโve never written an album without Teddy, period.โ
Warren:ย We were on the bus heading into Chicago and Eddie seemed upset about something. I said, โTalk if you want to talk.โ I donโt like it when people try to force you to ask them whatโs going on.
He said, โI havenโt told anybody this butโฆโ Pete was gonna leave the band.
Eddie:ย Pete was not listening to reason. Warren said I should talk to Billy, get Billy to talk some sense into him. As if Pete was going to listen to Billy if he wasnโt going to listen to me. I was his brother.
Warren:ย Graham overheard us talking.
Eddie:ย So Graham gets involved and heโs already getting on everybodyโs nerves lately because heโs so tightly wound about God-knows-what. Anyway, he says we should talk to Billy. And I, again, mention that Pete isnโt going to listen to Billy if he wasnโt going to listen to me, you know what Iโm saying? But Graham doesnโt hear me and, instead, when we pull up to this diner
outside Chicago, Billy comes to find me. He says, โWhatโs going on? What do we need to talk about?โ
I was just looking for the john, minding my own business. I said, โItโs nothing, man. Donโt worry about it.โ
Billy says, โItโs my band. I deserve to know whatโs going on in my own band.โ
That really pissed me off. I said, โItโs everybodyโs band.โ Billy said, โYou know what I meant.โ
And I said, โYeah, we all know what you mean.โ
Karen:ย We were outside of Chicago. Staying the night in a hotel. Camila had called ahead to this clinic. She walked me in, sat next to me. I was bouncing my knee and she put her hand on my leg and stopped the bouncing. I said, โAm I making a mistake?โ
And she said, โDo you think you are?โ And I said, โI donโt know.โ
And she said, โI think you do know.โ And I thought about what she meant.
And then I said, โI know Iโm not making a mistake.โ And she said, โThere you go.โ
And I said, โI think Iโm pretending to be conflicted so that everybody feels better.โ
She said, โI donโt need to feel better. You donโt need to pretend anything for me.โ So I stopped.
When they called my name, she squeezed my hand and she didnโt let go. I didnโt ask her to come into the room with me and I didnโt think she was going to, but she just kept walking with meโ she never left my side. I remember thinking,ย Oh, I guess sheโs gonna be here for this.ย I got on the table. The doctor explained what was going to happen. And then he left for a moment. And there was a nurse in the corner. And I looked at Camila and she looked like she was going to cry. And I said, โAre you sad?โ
And she said, โA part of me wishes you wanted kids, because my kids make me so happy. ButโฆI think in order to be happy like Iโm happy, you need different things. And I want you to have
whatever those things are.โ And I started crying, then. Because somebody understood.
Afterward, she brought me back to the hotel and she told everyone I wasnโt feeling well and I laid in bed by myself. Andโฆit was a bad day. It was an awful day. Knowing you did the right thing doesnโt mean youโre happy about it. But when I called in room service, and I laid there in my hotel room, I knew that I was childless and that Camila was out with her children. And thatโฆ that seemed right. That little bit of order amidst the chaos.
Camila:ย Itโs not my place to say what happened that day. All I will say is that you show up for your friends on their hardest days. And you hold their hand through the roughest parts. Life is about who is holding your hand and, I think, whose hand you commit to holding.
Graham:ย I didnโt know what had happened.
Karen:ย As we were all leaving the hotel, heading out to Chicago, I saw Graham get in the elevator alone, and I thought about taking the stairs. But I didnโt. I got in the elevator with him. Just the two of us. And as the elevator started going down, he said, โAre you okay? Camila said you werenโt feeling well.โ
And I said, โIโm not pregnant anymore.โ
He turned to me with this look on his face like,ย I never thought youโd do this to me.ย The elevator doors opened and we both just stood there. Not saying a word. They closed. And we took the elevator all the way to the top. And then all the way back down. Right before we got to the lobby again, Graham hit the button for the second floor. And he got off.
Graham:ย I walked up and down the hallway of that hotel, over and over and over and over. At the end of the hallway there was a window, and I put my head on it. My forehead. And I looked down at all of the people below me. I was only a few floors up from them. I watched them walking from place to place, and I felt
jealous of every single one of them. That they werenโt me right then. I wanted to switch places with every man down there.
When I pulled my forehead off the glass, there was a huge greasy smudge where Iโd touched it. I tried to wipe it away but it just made the window cloudy. I remember looking through this cloudy window, trying to rub it to make it better and nothing would help. I just kept rubbing and rubbing and rubbing. Until Rod found me somehow.
He said, โGraham, what are you doing? We gotta be in Chicago this afternoon. Bus is gonna leave without you, man.โ
And somehow, I put one foot in front of the other and walked with him down to the bus.